I really need to give up on this fandom
Apr. 30th, 2004 12:07 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
maderrSo FFVII - my second favorite in the FF series, and one of my fav games period. Vincent happens to be one of my all time fav chars. You would think that would keep me from seeing him maltreated in the fandom. Alas no, I seem to be a glutton for punishment.
What bothers me the most about the way Vincent is treated is that everyone focuses on the damned angst-factor. Apparently 98% of the fandom failed to remark two very important comments made by Vin in the game. 1) In the battle with Hojo he says "I was wrong. You're the one who should have slept" (something like that) and later in the airship Cloud remarks that he didn't think Vincent would return, that he always seemed stand-offish and uncaring. Vincent remarks that he doesn't mean to, he's just not a talker (yes? It's been awhile since I've played, but I'm pretty sure that was the sum of the convo). Plus there's Lucrezia's cave, where he's kind to his chick one last time (by telling her Sephi is dead - I thought it kind anyway) and later when you go back you get Chaos and Death Penalty - basically accepting the weapons needed to kill Sephi (meaning she knew he wasn't dead the whole time but alos knew he should die).
So - acceptance and realization for all concerned parties. The point is that by the end of the game he wasn't guilt-ridden, he wasn't bogged down by angst and he definitely was not a cold, ruthless killer. I mean the man did torture himself with nightmares for quite a bit, surely he learned something from them.
About the only things I do agree with are the fact that he's probably stronger than a normal human (the way he jumps, flips, etc), he could be immortal, and he's probably not entirely sane. I mean he was fucked with rather neatly scientifically - after being shot point blank. Then he slept in a coffin for a not inconsiderable length of time. Then there's the transformations...though I have my own theories on those.
I get dorkier by the minute. But I seldom get into writing fanfics, b/c I'm of the opinion that for the most part the fandoms are well covered. But every now and then I *twitch* and deside something needs to be well written - mostly just b/c I want to see if it can be done. That's how I initially got into Yuber/Albert...and my Yami fic was written b/c I was annoyed everyone neglected the shikigami. (of course I've since then found people who I think far surpass me in either field, but I didn't find them 'til later).
So. I am suitably aggravated by this maltreatment of Vincent. I was trying to ignore it but alas the twitch is firmly established now. In addition to that I am aggravated that they insist on pairing him with Cid but don't bother to do it well (I was not a huge fan of the pairing for a long time, even now I like it only upon occasion. Gomes for instance bought me a very nummy doujin, to date that's one of like two instances of them I can stand). That's how it started with Y/A - I was annoyed people liked the pairing but didn't do it convincingly. So not only am I going to write a convincing Vincent, I'm going to write a convincing Cid/Vincent. This will require pondering. And it will have to wait until I am moved. But it will be written, never fear (or fear, whatever your pref).
Of course I'm probably the only one that cares anymore but I write my fanfics b/c they're what I want to see, even if it's a fandom of zero. I still want to write a tosh/shu for Arc the Lad and I know I'm the only that cares about that. Then there's SO2, though I doubt I'll ever get around to that one...
All right, enough dorkdom. Just wait, once Ang reads this I'm going to get the following comment (or something very like it):
::pats:: It'll be okay, deer.
Because Ang likes to remind me that no, the world does not revolve around my opinon of my video games. It should.
What bothers me the most about the way Vincent is treated is that everyone focuses on the damned angst-factor. Apparently 98% of the fandom failed to remark two very important comments made by Vin in the game. 1) In the battle with Hojo he says "I was wrong. You're the one who should have slept" (something like that) and later in the airship Cloud remarks that he didn't think Vincent would return, that he always seemed stand-offish and uncaring. Vincent remarks that he doesn't mean to, he's just not a talker (yes? It's been awhile since I've played, but I'm pretty sure that was the sum of the convo). Plus there's Lucrezia's cave, where he's kind to his chick one last time (by telling her Sephi is dead - I thought it kind anyway) and later when you go back you get Chaos and Death Penalty - basically accepting the weapons needed to kill Sephi (meaning she knew he wasn't dead the whole time but alos knew he should die).
So - acceptance and realization for all concerned parties. The point is that by the end of the game he wasn't guilt-ridden, he wasn't bogged down by angst and he definitely was not a cold, ruthless killer. I mean the man did torture himself with nightmares for quite a bit, surely he learned something from them.
About the only things I do agree with are the fact that he's probably stronger than a normal human (the way he jumps, flips, etc), he could be immortal, and he's probably not entirely sane. I mean he was fucked with rather neatly scientifically - after being shot point blank. Then he slept in a coffin for a not inconsiderable length of time. Then there's the transformations...though I have my own theories on those.
I get dorkier by the minute. But I seldom get into writing fanfics, b/c I'm of the opinion that for the most part the fandoms are well covered. But every now and then I *twitch* and deside something needs to be well written - mostly just b/c I want to see if it can be done. That's how I initially got into Yuber/Albert...and my Yami fic was written b/c I was annoyed everyone neglected the shikigami. (of course I've since then found people who I think far surpass me in either field, but I didn't find them 'til later).
So. I am suitably aggravated by this maltreatment of Vincent. I was trying to ignore it but alas the twitch is firmly established now. In addition to that I am aggravated that they insist on pairing him with Cid but don't bother to do it well (I was not a huge fan of the pairing for a long time, even now I like it only upon occasion. Gomes for instance bought me a very nummy doujin, to date that's one of like two instances of them I can stand). That's how it started with Y/A - I was annoyed people liked the pairing but didn't do it convincingly. So not only am I going to write a convincing Vincent, I'm going to write a convincing Cid/Vincent. This will require pondering. And it will have to wait until I am moved. But it will be written, never fear (or fear, whatever your pref).
Of course I'm probably the only one that cares anymore but I write my fanfics b/c they're what I want to see, even if it's a fandom of zero. I still want to write a tosh/shu for Arc the Lad and I know I'm the only that cares about that. Then there's SO2, though I doubt I'll ever get around to that one...
All right, enough dorkdom. Just wait, once Ang reads this I'm going to get the following comment (or something very like it):
::pats:: It'll be okay, deer.
Because Ang likes to remind me that no, the world does not revolve around my opinon of my video games. It should.
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Date: 2004-04-29 09:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-29 09:17 pm (UTC)Amusement is good. If someone's amused I figure my idiocy is permissable.
And I still don't think I'm as bad as certain people who post pics of the models they just put together.
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Date: 2004-04-29 09:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-29 09:21 pm (UTC)Yes, they should be run through.
*fetches The Pointy*
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Date: 2004-04-29 09:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-29 09:23 pm (UTC)hahahaha *will not be distracted*
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Date: 2004-04-29 09:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-29 09:26 pm (UTC)You're lying...did she really? I better check...
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Date: 2004-04-29 09:29 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-29 09:30 pm (UTC)*eyes suspiciously* If you promise to stay put...
My two cents on the matter
Date: 2004-04-30 03:40 am (UTC)2) see above
B) yeah... still against it
1) you makes a good point.
Z) Couldn't you have picked a different pairing? I mean, it's Cid for God's sake. Dont' ruin this for me!
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Date: 2004-04-30 07:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-30 07:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-30 08:23 am (UTC)I keep thinking of making Sugoicon Flyers to take to Isakucon & have the line "& You can meet hot chicks like THIS!" & have that picture after the line on the flyer.
Re: My two cents on the matter
Date: 2004-04-30 09:08 am (UTC)Heh, I knew you'd appear. I don't like it either, to be honest. But I'm determined! It's become my new mission. I had contemplated Vin/Seph and I may yet do that...but this first.
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Date: 2004-04-30 10:32 am (UTC)