And you thought I'd forget
May. 11th, 2004 10:20 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
maderrI need a break from writing, and going back over Unequal so I can workon that again sometime soon...reminded about the thing I hated most about VanHelsing.
Jekyll and Hyde and Frankenstein are kick ass books. They freakin' rock, at least imho. The characters and roles are perfectly fine just the way they are - so why is it whenever they're put in other movies everyone feels the need to completely and utterly butcher them??? Argh!!!
First and foremost let's get Dr. Jekyll straight. He's not some weak, sniveling, incompetent. The whole problem started with Jekyll being damn near fucking perfect. Not some wuss - he was loved and adored by this friends, charming, attractive, popular, and respected as being a brilliant scientist. He wasn't poor or loney or anything. But he had what he called his darker side. He wanted to do not nice things upon occasion (though it's never straight up said what he wanted to do), probably had some not nice thoughts about people. Nothing extreme. So guilty and upset by this he sought a way to seperate his good side from his bad side. Only it didn't work quite the way he wanted.
Enter Hyde. Who ws most definitely not some huge, hulking monstrosity that went about mindlessly killing every young chick he ever saw. WTF? The murder that starts the whole thing is him clubbing an old man to death. And the guy that saw the whole thing observed only that his appearnce was "off" somehow. There's nothing physically or obviously wrong with the man - it's his inherent evil that upsets everyone, not his appearance.
Of course I'm messing around with J&H myself, but I'm egotistical enough to think I'm doing a better job than anyone in hollywood has ever managed.
The monster doesn't have a name. Do any of these people actually read the book? At least they got that much right in Helsing, though they seldom do anywhere else. Two: Victor was actually decently young, I believe. He was only a student, not some older man firmly established as a scientist & whackjob. He was a student who became obsessed with Alchemy when daddy said "don't read that."
Victor and the Monster had a really strange love/hate relationship. The monster both loved his creator and hated him, for a variety of reasons beyond his creation (the bride, the running away, the fear, the list goes on). Victor was primarily scared of the monster, but also knew that it was all ultimately his fault.
The monster was a menace, but he wasn't mindless or out of control. And he was smart - he taught himself to read, write, etc. He was just lonely, and didn't really go nuts until Victor started to make but then destroyed a bride for the monster. And he never went rampaging or anything. He rather methodically killed off everyone Victor loved, ending with Elizabeth (and this story btw has tons of slash potential. or maybe I really do need a new hobby). I don't know wtf was in the helsing movie, but it def wasn't Frankenstein and his monster.
Lastly, no one ever knew that Victor created the monster - not until Victor tells his story to the story's actual narrator. And they both died (okay the monster "died") in the arctic.
I could go on and on about these books, esp. Frankenstein. I love them to death. I get so damn mad when they're butchered over and over again. Granted I'm taking my own liberties, but my story is meant more as a tribute to all those books rather than a fucked up way of portraying them, if that makes sense (hell, I eve call the monster Frankenstein, but given what I named the other chars I didn't actually have a choice. So I guess in fairness I have to yell at myself for that one - which I've done. But like I said - I had no choice. these other people did).
All right, I'm done boring everyone.
Jekyll and Hyde and Frankenstein are kick ass books. They freakin' rock, at least imho. The characters and roles are perfectly fine just the way they are - so why is it whenever they're put in other movies everyone feels the need to completely and utterly butcher them??? Argh!!!
First and foremost let's get Dr. Jekyll straight. He's not some weak, sniveling, incompetent. The whole problem started with Jekyll being damn near fucking perfect. Not some wuss - he was loved and adored by this friends, charming, attractive, popular, and respected as being a brilliant scientist. He wasn't poor or loney or anything. But he had what he called his darker side. He wanted to do not nice things upon occasion (though it's never straight up said what he wanted to do), probably had some not nice thoughts about people. Nothing extreme. So guilty and upset by this he sought a way to seperate his good side from his bad side. Only it didn't work quite the way he wanted.
Enter Hyde. Who ws most definitely not some huge, hulking monstrosity that went about mindlessly killing every young chick he ever saw. WTF? The murder that starts the whole thing is him clubbing an old man to death. And the guy that saw the whole thing observed only that his appearnce was "off" somehow. There's nothing physically or obviously wrong with the man - it's his inherent evil that upsets everyone, not his appearance.
Of course I'm messing around with J&H myself, but I'm egotistical enough to think I'm doing a better job than anyone in hollywood has ever managed.
The monster doesn't have a name. Do any of these people actually read the book? At least they got that much right in Helsing, though they seldom do anywhere else. Two: Victor was actually decently young, I believe. He was only a student, not some older man firmly established as a scientist & whackjob. He was a student who became obsessed with Alchemy when daddy said "don't read that."
Victor and the Monster had a really strange love/hate relationship. The monster both loved his creator and hated him, for a variety of reasons beyond his creation (the bride, the running away, the fear, the list goes on). Victor was primarily scared of the monster, but also knew that it was all ultimately his fault.
The monster was a menace, but he wasn't mindless or out of control. And he was smart - he taught himself to read, write, etc. He was just lonely, and didn't really go nuts until Victor started to make but then destroyed a bride for the monster. And he never went rampaging or anything. He rather methodically killed off everyone Victor loved, ending with Elizabeth (and this story btw has tons of slash potential. or maybe I really do need a new hobby). I don't know wtf was in the helsing movie, but it def wasn't Frankenstein and his monster.
Lastly, no one ever knew that Victor created the monster - not until Victor tells his story to the story's actual narrator. And they both died (okay the monster "died") in the arctic.
I could go on and on about these books, esp. Frankenstein. I love them to death. I get so damn mad when they're butchered over and over again. Granted I'm taking my own liberties, but my story is meant more as a tribute to all those books rather than a fucked up way of portraying them, if that makes sense (hell, I eve call the monster Frankenstein, but given what I named the other chars I didn't actually have a choice. So I guess in fairness I have to yell at myself for that one - which I've done. But like I said - I had no choice. these other people did).
All right, I'm done boring everyone.
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Date: 2004-05-11 08:01 pm (UTC)At least in the comic for League (which unlike the movie wasn't half of some script for some other film that was used without permission), they explained that as Hyde grew more evil he got bigger and sapped away physical mass from Dr. Jekyll. At least the comic had explanations for their changes, not that I agree with them (especially Captain Nemo).
Sadly, VH made $54.2 million opening weekend. Hopefully, bad word of mouth will make it drop over 50% and punish it for its $160 million budget. This for a script I could have written better without effort.
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Date: 2004-05-11 10:07 pm (UTC)Though I am often astonished at your love and appreciation for the old-school horror stories. I'm surprised you haven't yet pumped out some 50 page thesis on these stories which you are constantly defending and expounding upon. Which of course would simply be another long winded work that says a whole lot of something about nothing worth reading about. Of course that's most of your works so what's surprising? ^-^
Yaoi potential in Frankenstien? . . . should I say something? . . . is ass rape from some seven foot monster appealing to you? . . . or is my sarcastic attempt at mocking both your appreciation of the novel and preferred romantic slant getting through clear enough? . . .
Good.
Tsk tsk, well enough of this. I've humored you long enough to sate my appetite. And do not think I've forgiven you for that "interesting" picture you sent to my e-mail. I'll have my revenge. In due course . . . in due course.
Until next time. -F
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Date: 2004-05-12 06:07 am (UTC)NOT THE MONSTER!!! Ack, that thought is terrifying.
*evil grin* I knew you'd like that picture. I've got more if you want'em!
A whole paper on F and J&H? Nah, I've leave that to the literaries. I just think they're fun.
Yes, you've sufficiently mocked me darling brother. Wish I was there to affectionately pummel you. Hugs & kisses.
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Date: 2004-05-11 10:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-05-12 06:10 am (UTC)I love the League comic. The movie was okay - at any rate I don't think it was as bad as Helsing or Daredevil.
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Date: 2004-05-12 06:15 am (UTC)At least HellBoy was good.
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Date: 2004-05-12 09:20 am (UTC)I wasn't really enthused by it. Not sure what was wrong with it, though I suppose it just wasn't that exciting or gripping. Could be that the main character was far too dry.
Feel free to point out more reasons why maybe I didn't like DD very much . . . I've wondered.
I think I liked it a smidge better than league, because I didn't have suspend my disbelief as much in regards to the plot. It's really a toss up. I'd have been thrilled if Helsing was only as good as League.
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Date: 2004-05-12 10:16 am (UTC)Daredevil was boring. The only part I liked was that bad guy whose name escapes me. bullseye? something like that. I did think the one guy looked cool as kingpin, but mostly I just think they dumb down the movies too much. And I always thought he and the chick were more visciously enemies. There was like five minutes of "I hate you" before they went back to sparkles light - and then they didn't even have the guts to leave her dead.
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Date: 2004-05-12 07:08 pm (UTC)Yes, Bullseye was awesome. I mainly went to see it for Elektra (that and I had a free pass), and probably her spin off movie, now filming, I'll like better (with the enemy being Typhoid Mary).
She actually died in the comic and got resurrected. I think it's her shtick. By the way, I think you're right about them hating each other more in the comic. I can't even remember now though whether she got back up in that movie after dying. For some reason I was thinking we didn't see her again . . . no big deal. My memory of the movie is fuzzy. Except the Bullseye scene after the credits.
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Date: 2004-05-11 11:53 pm (UTC)blah
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Date: 2004-05-12 06:11 am (UTC)Pretty much