People aggravate me

[maderr]

What's the point of posting something if you're so defensive and touchy about it that it sounds like you didn't even enjoy writing it? I don't get people. They say they love to write, that they love their respective fandoms and they 'don't care if anyone disagrees with them' yet the minute they write a fic they know they'll get comments for they get so angry and defensive I don't even want to read the damn fic anymore.

I mean everyone wants their stuff to be read and liked. Hell, I never get tired of hearing "loved this chapter, etc etc" but you know? That's not the number one reason I write. I never expected to get more than a small handful of people to read what I posted and I was actually content with that. Hell my fanfics get little or no attention b/c they're not the most popular fandoms.

It drives me insane that these people are so angry-defensive about what they're writing that it doesn't even sound like they're having fun. Granted, writing isn't all fun. But I dunno - I have lots of fun even as I'm bitching. I'm not sure I'm conveying what I want to say. Mostly it's this - what's the point of writing a story if you're so tense about it that you forget you're supposed to be enjoying writing it? I mean if you're not happy about writing it, why would I want to read it? All that you convey in the story is your own bitterness about the reception your story is going to receive upon posting. I've read stuff by people like that. All it does is drag the reader down and imho that's not the point of writing.

Am I making any sense? Probably not. Feel free to call me or counter or me or whatever. It just bugs me people forget fanfiction - writing - is primarily a pleasure and not a pain.

Comments

[nanthimus.livejournal.com]

Eeek. I hope I don't do that. I mean, sure I want people to like what I write. But I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that not many people read the shit I write and I should be happy if I get one good review. *g*

However, I don't love my respective fandom. *g* Or rather, I love Harry Potter, but the fadom itself makes it rather hard to love it. Too many idgits around here.

Though wank is generally fun....

[maderr.livejournal.com]

lol. heck no, you never sound like that. and you write verra well.

*snerk* I dunno, HP is a fandom you love in that "omg someone actually wrote that" sort of way. Like Gundam Wing - they're so horrible at times you can't help yourself. Or maybe I need help, heh.

Nah, I'm referring mostly to a girl who's Weiss fics I normally love. But even another reader says basically what I'm saying - she's getting rather prima dona about what kind of reviews are acceptable and she sounds so angry about her fic that I'm just like "fuck it."

fic writing

[miikarin.livejournal.com]

I am guessing you are talking about Mami-san? Ehh.. it could be that... it could also be that she's stressed?

Personally, I like it better when the fic is posted without any long rants at the beginning. Just a story ... and like you said, a pleasurable past time.

This makes me wish to write a whole paragraph or more about this subject. But I fear I do not have the time or leisure at the moment.

Re: fic writing

[maderr.livejournal.com]

lol. I wondered if anyone else would know to whom I referred. Yes, I am talking about mami-san. Well, primarily her. I've seen other writers do the same thing, she's just the proverbial straw.

[indigoraven.livejournal.com]

Generally I write for me. I write what I want to see. I think I would be more likely to be on the depressed side if someone commented negatively on my writing, rather than defensive or angry. I might try to explain my point of view, or the reasoning behind what I wrote. Or I would just blow them off if I thought their criticism unfounded.

Hell, what do I have to complain about? No one has even commented aside from Ang about the stuff I've posted, so.. no real basis for comparison. ;->

[maderr.livejournal.com]

eep! *feels guilty* You did post something - I did't have time to read it at the time. I meant to go back and look at it! *scurries off*

[nepenth.livejournal.com]

that has always boggled the mind. i've always written for the sheer fact that as others i'm sure have mentioned, i want to. yes, its nice to hear comments, not always so fun to hear flames, always nice that people offer nonexistant pocky, but honestly its for playing with other characters in a series you happened to enjoy.
seriously, if i see the writer obviously hates writing the fic (the best ones are the ones who tell you in the comments before the fic how much they hated writing it) i won't read it. why? as you said, if they hated writing it, why should i read it? i mean, honestly, how many of us write a fic because there's a gun to head saying that we must in order to live write a fic. ::sighs:: whacky world of fanfiction i guess.

[miikarin.livejournal.com]

Somehow, I do not know when this happened, but writing managed to become so serious. It may be because of a number of reasons... but it's not enjoyable when it becomes like that. It's like a burden in the heart that weighs down on writer and reader both. Quite a distressing turn of events.

[maderr.livejournal.com]

When it's all pain and no pleasure, I think it's time to step back and take a break.

[tsaiko.livejournal.com]

I'm weird in that every once in awhile, I deliberately write something or come up with an idea just to bring the flames in. I don't know why. I just have the urge to write fics with all the fascination of a fatal car wreck.

It's amusing. When I put them out, I actually keep count of how many flames I get. I'm disappointed when I don't get any. If anything, it gives me a good laugh and keeps my writing in perspective. If it's not for fun, then why do it?

[maderr.livejournal.com]

ha! that's awesome. I've never known anyone to purposely pull in flames before. That's a cool attitude to have.

[raielchan.livejournal.com]

I wrote a few which I thought were destined to get flames but oddly, didn't. C'mon, I murdered a few characters for no good reason (which was in fact the only point of the story). There should have been anger. I demand anger. Still, I think the majority of readers do not give feedback, which is fine.

Pretty much the only flames I've gotten have made me laugh. I've been spoiled because most of the comments on my work are filled with love. However, I still think I suck.

[goofyrobo.livejournal.com]

I concur.

The following need be done with those persons:
1.Eaten.
2.Hurled into the sun.

[maderr.livejournal.com]

Might I skip the "eaten" part and just go for the hurling ito sun?

[minni.livejournal.com]

Sooo, let me get this straight: You won't read something if a person comes right out and say you hated writing it? Makes sense to me, except for the part of where a person says they hate they wrote it.

I mean, how does one figure in the meaning of this "hate" for writing? I wrote a very gruesome side story/companion fic to one of my Severus Snape's Past story, and it told the tale of how miserable James' life was. I say it was gruesome because Voldemort slaughtered James' parents and little brother in a very, =uuuhhhh, vivid manner (you know how it can be; decapitated heads rolling around on the floor, living people being skewered and cut to ribbons with knives, the floor completely covered with blood, etc. etc.), and it's quite a depressing, very unhappy story of someone who was struggling to be happy but never really succeeding, since everything winds up destroyed or maimed beyond recognition. I hated writing it because of how miserable and how depressing the situations and characters. This went above and beyond angst. This was just pure and utter misery. I felt hrrible to inflict this sort of pain on anyone, even if they were fictional characters.
However, it had to be written. For the sequel to what the side story was about to make sense, to get a better picture of the characters and their motivation and especially pre-OofP James, for a much broader sense of the historical background and personalities of everyone involved, the side story had to be written. And I'd be damned if it didn't turn out to be the most emotionally powerful piece I have ever written! o.O

(Now, in my defense, I don't outright say anywhere in the actual story that I hated writing it; merely that writing it made me cry on three separate occasions. Did I mention I wrote it before the fifth HP book came out?)

So, because I'm confused and because you might have lost track of the original question, how does one define "hatred" in writing a story?