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Sep. 1st, 2004 10:53 am
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This article amuses me greatly. Elements of it also terrify me.

What terrifies me is the fact that so many students think spellcheck is their friend. Anyone who relies on that for their writing needs a swift kick in in the head.

I'm also annoyed that a teacher was bitching about how it's unfair, b/c We would never want to accept a letter that someone had written on the spur of the moment. If they were applying for a job, you would want to see the best writing.".

Is it just me or is she missing the point entirely? Ye gods no wonder kids are stupid - the teachers are morons. It further dismays me that kids are worried they'll use 'netspeak rather than real speech when writing. Seriously, what are they learning that they think they'll write R U instead 'are you' on a freakin' essay? O_o

I am vastly amused - and gleeful - that they're throwing a timed essay into the SAT. It's about damn time. One of these days people are going to realize that yeah, science and math are teh kool, but it doesn't fucking matter if you don't know that 'teh kool' is hellaciously wrong and that you're better of saying "They're vital."

But what do I know? Every single time I tell people I majored in History, the response is "why did you do that?" So too with my writing "hobby," though that gets a modicum more respect (until it's learned I write fantasy, and worse - slash).

Meh. This hand-written, timed essay will be good for the munchkins. Maybe it'll, you know, force them to learn something.

Date: 2004-09-01 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starparty.livejournal.com
What terrifies me is the fact that so many students think spellcheck is their friend. Anyone who relies on that for their writing needs a swift kick in in the head.

Please dear god no... I already have a headache and that's NOT going to help.

Besides.. I had a teacher in the 8th grade tell mom just that... That even though my handwriting and spelling sucked it wouldn't matter since computers and spell check were so common.

You have chatted with me on MSN.. you *know* spellcheck is my friend...

Date: 2004-09-01 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

Dude, you're not that bad. You mistakes are basic ones. I mean grammar more than spelling, anyway. That's where everyone fucks up, as the Grammar Nazi will tell you when she appears.

Date: 2004-09-01 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
1) Everybody makes grammatical errors. Depending on computers to correct all grammatical errors is just dumb. Especially since they miss the REALLY BIG GLARING MISTAKES sometimes too. -_-;;;

2) Spelling mistakes are normal. I keep typing "you're" instead of "your" and smacking myself upside the head before changing it. So?

One thing word-processors are good for though... When I hand-write things, I have a tendency to miss out words like "the" etc when I'm trying to grasp the idea and my words aren't being put down fast enough, and word-processors can catch those. When I proof my own work, I tend to fill those in without actually seeing them. -_-;;; Had that happen several times in a couple of major exams before.

Date: 2004-09-01 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

I do that your/you're thing all the time - which is really bad. Maybe I should start smacking myself. But that's what you're for XP Smacking me, I mean. If anyone knows my mistakes, it would be my betas.

I do that all the time. Leave out 'the', 'is', etc. Trying to read what I've handwritten is like trying to crack some really obscure code. I am eternally grateful for computers; w/out them I could not be a writer.

Date: 2004-09-01 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
I tend to have issues with one and won. I always mix them up. And,I like to mix up I and it. Not quite certain how I manage that, but I do.

meh

My handwriting is determined by the day and my mood. I've have somewhere betweent 8 and 10 different forms of lettering depending on how I feel and "what the weather's like" (so to speak). It makes for interesting reviews--yeah right--later in the semester. heh

Date: 2004-09-01 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com
Just to say this for the upteenth time, I am ever amused that mom claims my handwriting sucks, your's is beautiful...and yet the common man can't tell us apart.

Date: 2004-09-01 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
Hehehehehe. ^5!

Mmm, me too. And that's one reason why I never beta my own work unless I can FORCE myself to read really slow. And I have this tendency to murmur to myself when I beta now. -_-;;;;

Date: 2004-09-01 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
My favorite moments with Grammar Check, are when it sends itself into an ifinite loop because it can't decide which form is correct. So it just flops from one correction to the other and around again.

Grammar Check is one of my favorite forms of entertainment.

Date: 2004-09-01 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

Ye gods, I want to stab it when it does that loop thing. I mean seriously, wtf is microsoft paying the genuises that are the cause of that?

Masochist

Date: 2004-09-01 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
I'll write a sentence soley for the intent of getting one of those loops. It's great fun confuzzling Grammar Check. [heart]

Date: 2004-09-01 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com


FREAK CHILD.

Who the fuck does that?

...What kind of sentences get it?

Date: 2004-09-01 10:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nanthimus.livejournal.com
I am vastly amused - and gleeful - that they're throwing a timed essay into the SAT.

Oh. thanks so much. XP The essay isn't the only thing that's a change. The math is getting harder, damnit! Harder! That's my beef with them changing the SAT. As horrified as I am that people rely on spell check so much, I'm way more concerned on whether or not I'll be ready for that damn math.

Date: 2004-09-01 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

Yeah, the math ate my soul when I took it >_< I made like 720 verbal, my math was 490

Date: 2004-09-01 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
Man... Newbern gave us some man ICEs sophomore year, the only way I know to write a paper any more is in an hour or less. And the writing test?

Yeah. All the on the spot writing they make us do, tell me they aren't looking for something there. Well thought-out and planned my ass. They're looking for ready and immediate knowlegde not a 100 page thesis or disertation.

Those are degree audits. On the spot essays are tests of learning. What do you already know without having to research? How easily can you interpret/percieve the situation on your own--without back-up and supplementary sources?

Point. I wanna cookie.

Date: 2004-09-01 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

What kind? I'll make S take me to the store for the stuff and make you some.

Date: 2004-09-01 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starparty.livejournal.com
Whatever she says we are making Chocolate chip because I said so.

Date: 2004-09-01 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com


Snickerdoodles and chocolate chip it is! w00t! double w00t!

Date: 2004-09-01 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
Snickerdoodles!

Date: 2004-09-01 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minni.livejournal.com
For some incredibly bizarre reason, I somehow managed to scuttle past taking the SAT. Since I took the pre-GED and the GED exam at the same community college I later attended for three years, it wasn't a requirement to take the SAT.

Date: 2004-09-01 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

The test is way overrated. It's the fashion for a lot school knows to not require it, b/c they "look for other, more important things" or some such. My school didn't require them, I just did it for the hell of it.

Guess what's wrong with this sentence...

Date: 2004-09-01 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rykaine.livejournal.com
a lot school knows to not require it.

And to think, you were doing so well. Oh, the despair.

Re: Guess what's wrong with this sentence...

Date: 2004-09-01 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

*wince* Wow did I butcher that. *smacks self*

NUH UH!

Date: 2004-09-01 01:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmus-egregius.livejournal.com
Fuck no. Timed writings on standardize tests are a BITCH. Especially the stupid fuckwad topics they always make us write about. UGH. Last time I had to do that (for MEAPs, it's a Michigan standardized test students have to take every couple years) I totally SNAPPED halfway through my last essay and starting rambling about how the fuck can writing be standardized. I ended up just barely passing it. Which is ironic because english is my strongest subject. At least I passed; I didn't think I would cause I used the word "fucking" once for emphasis.

Damn standardized tests. They make me so angry.

Re: NUH UH!

Date: 2004-09-01 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

Huh. I would have thought you'd be good at them. A whole several minutes to make up shit about a random topic seemed your educational cup of tea. I guess I was looking at it the wrong way.

Re: NUH UH!

Date: 2004-09-01 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmus-egregius.livejournal.com
Yeah... but I just get so mad, and then I get unreasonable. It's like, I can see what they expect me to write and how they expect me to write it, but instead of just writing it, I get really angry about been lead through hoops.

I have this weird psycological thing about words.

And also I hate writing things by hand because my hand can't keep up with my brain and then I forget what the sentence was supposed to say halfway through, except that it was a really good sentence.

Yeah... I guess I'm just stubborn and ridiculous. But whatever.

Re: NUH UH!

Date: 2004-09-01 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

Nah, that actually makes plenty of sense. At least, I know how frustrating it can be to made to hoop jump *and* how slow writing by hand is.

Re: NUH UH!

Date: 2004-09-01 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lemmus-egregius.livejournal.com
Yes! Woo, go making sense!

Date: 2004-09-01 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audaxfemina.livejournal.com
I suppose I'm an exception to some of the math and science stereotypes. I have legible handwriting for one, and I'm fairly confident with the spoken and written word. Maybe I am the exception, or I haven't met enough of the 'rule' to know the difference.

But I actually have to write an original research proposal this fall, and I think it will be interesting to see how many people tank it the first go round. I hate spellcheck though, because with a lot of technical words, it just goes 'wtf' on me.

Date: 2004-09-01 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com

You are indeed an exception. Keeps me hoping the rest of your brethren will come around.

Proposals aren't that hard. I would think the full on paper would be more difficult.

Date: 2004-09-01 03:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audaxfemina.livejournal.com
Well, yes, but at least 7 of the 25 first year grad students flunked the English language test they had to take. So like I said... interesting.

Date: 2004-09-01 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
I hate spellcheck though, because with a lot of technical words, it just goes 'wtf' on me.

"Biopsychosocial" and "psychoneuroimmodulation" were just a few of the words they were attempting to nitpick with me when I typed up my bloody essay. :P

Date: 2004-09-01 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maderr.livejournal.com


psychoneuroimmodulation

O_o

Who the heck coms up with a word like that? I read that in your paper and I was like *blink blink*

Date: 2004-09-01 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
Scientists, I s'pose. And the most fun part about it is that it actually makes sense if you split them up into their little component bits. :P

Date: 2004-09-01 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] audaxfemina.livejournal.com
Anything that has a single letter abbreviation either in Greek or Roman lettering is a problem. Evil MS Word XP Spellchecker.

Date: 2004-09-01 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiyoshi-chan.livejournal.com
Agreed. *nods*

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