Hey, Queen
Aug. 6th, 2008 06:09 pmHave you heard anything about this book? What's your take?
My two cents - it's a free fucking country. It's historical fiction. Publish the fucking book.
My two cents - it's a free fucking country. It's historical fiction. Publish the fucking book.
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Date: 2008-08-06 10:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-06 11:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-07 12:26 am (UTC)I haven't seen ANYONE on any listserver mention a word about it nor have I seen anyone in AMEWS say anything about it either. I'm always the last person to know about these things and frankly, there are greater things to worry about other than this stupid book. You could take anyone's name and throw it into this book whether it be Shajaraat al-Dhurr or Hurrem Sultan. Shit happens.
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Date: 2008-08-07 12:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-07 12:24 am (UTC)That said, one point I do agree with Spellman on is that that the work that is being done to reclaim historical Muslim women for the purpose of activism and reinforcement of women's rights in Islam, is quite fragile, and the idea, however absurd or fictional, that that could be threatened by a novel, is theoretically possible. In fact, she has proven this fact by rallying who she has rallied and during the summer no less when trying to find any academic is next to impossible.
That said however, the mind boggles that we can have [i]The Red Tent[/i], with the Jewish matriarchs, a fictional biography of Mary Magdalene, and as someone mentioned above Dan Brown's treatment of Mary Magdalene as the wife of Christ, but we cannot publish a book on the favourite wife of the Prophet Muhammad without having another Danish Cartoon Fiasco. More than anything, it frightens me that academics are now reaching outside of their own spheres and instigating the censorship that we work so hard to tear down.
Kat
Date: 2008-08-07 09:00 am (UTC)That's my rant.
Re: Kat
Date: 2008-08-07 10:08 am (UTC)That wasn't really her point. Her point was that if books like that can be published, then so too a book on Muhammed's favorite wife.
Re: Kat
Date: 2008-08-07 01:40 pm (UTC)It doesn't bother me at all if Mary Magdalene was the wife of Christ. What always bothered me was that she was protrayed as a whore, which she wasn't. The rest is secondary, I know that she was a fairly affluent woman and other snippets of her life.
My point being however is that we can write about the matriarchs of other Abrahamic religions without rioting in the streets, but when it comes to a Muslim matriarch, after all, A'isha is "Umm al-Mu'minin," but I get the point when there are hypersexual scenes, but that sort of goes with the territory.
I for one could do without a book with A'isha losing her virginity, but I admire anyone who is willing to dangle her toe into that snakepit.
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Date: 2008-08-07 02:34 am (UTC)"You know what? This is publicity gold for that author. SOMEONE is going to pay her a metric fuck ton of cash for this book."
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Date: 2008-08-07 02:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-07 03:10 am (UTC)Who would even know about this book unless Spellberg pitched such a shitfit?
Thank God she didn't write "The Jewel of Mecca."
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Date: 2008-08-07 03:34 am (UTC)*shudders at the thought*
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Date: 2008-08-07 03:58 am (UTC)what a bunch of immature intolerant whiners
I think the publishers should grow some balls and publish it anyway.
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Date: 2008-08-07 09:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-07 05:39 pm (UTC)e.g. If we can have a caricature about Christ with a bomb on his head, or Buddha riding a tricycle and no one would bat an eyelid. So why not other religions too?
This rule does not quite work when it concerns Islam - especially their most sacred prophet: Muhammad.
A lot of Muslims do not equate Free Speech = Human Right + Common Sense That Everyone Should Embrace. Especially now with the current political situation and general world sentiment against Islam, priciples like Free Speech (which we take for granted) is equated with Westernism and all its baggage of political marginalisation.
i.e. It's not just about religion. It's regarded as a personal attack on Muslims as a whole, whether or not the intention is there.
Not to mention, when they say "Sacred history", they mean sacred history.
Here in Malaysia, it's an accepted fact that you can't even show an image of Prophet Muhammad's face. We have a cartoon on our local TV that depicts his life and you can only see his *footprints* and this gigantic ball of light representing PM.
Yes, it can be somewhat hilarious and goodness knows there are a lot of us who don't agree but it's important to understand why and how religion is a very prickly issue with Muslims if you really want to know why everyone gets their panties in a knot when it comes to issues like these.
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Date: 2008-08-08 12:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-08 06:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-08-09 11:17 am (UTC)Professionally she should have talked to the publisher and explained why it was a bad idea to publish the book if she disputed it's accuracy, am assuming that is why she was given an advanced copy to review for them. She could have pointed out too, if the publisher couldn't connect the dots, why the Islamic world would be upset with the treatment of the subject.
If the e-article you linked to is accurate then I think too that she has the height of hypocrisy to threaten to sue if her name is linked to the book. The publisher is not likely to put her name on a book that she reviewed as trash.
One wonders what UT-Austin thinks of their professor.
Per this
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080808063911AAQ5cUu
Professor Spellman is Muslim. Which we all know may or may not be true, but it's interesting.