Bibles in School and Incest

[maderr]

The Case For Teaching the Bible

Should Incest Be Legal?

Though I have much to say on both matters, I am neitiher in the mood to risk offending people nor capable of being terribly lucid right now.

I will say in passing that I thought it just ever so slightly obnoxious that one of her reasons the Bible was better than Shakespeare was that more wars had been fought over it.

As to incest - I don't have lustful thoughts for my siblings but whatever works. Seriously, the article is barely even about that. Sadly. I like how because gays want marriage and related rights that the world is going to fall into a void of incestual polygamous evilz0r if it's permitted across the board.

Too much fucking free time in the world.

Comments

[mzcalypso.livejournal.com]

I don't like incest in any way, shape, or form. There are two valid arguments against it--the genetic consequences of inbreeding being the worst. The other is that if one believes that enslaving another is a bad idea--particularly involuntary enslavement--there is no way that a child has the strength of maturity or position to refuse sexual advances from a family member, and I'm even talking about siblings. A kid who grows up into adulthood and then forms intimate bonds with a family member has lost the important step of growing up and out of the family of origin. That's a significant piece of becoming an independnt, functional adult. I've seen too many clients who'd been injured by family sexual abuse to see incest as anything other than a major violation of boundaries. The Woody Allen case was probably the most well-publicized. He may not have been married to Mia Farrow, but her adopted daughter was very young when he met her--and in my eyes that was emotional incest and pederasty.

There are exceptions to the incest thing, sure. Step-sibs brought together by the parents' marriage--got no problem with that, though I expect it'd be a hairtangle for the parents. Fantasy stuff--well, it's sure not my fantasy but it doesn't hurt anyone. But in RL... there are over 6 billion people on the planet who are not related to most of the others. Surely that's a big enough pool that anyone can find somebody with a little genetic variation.

[alice_montrose]

Fantasy, yes. There are many things I read and might even write at some point that I would refrain from in RL. And I'm willing to bet it's the same with most writers, really. Exploring your darkest fantasies and all. Which is why i am fine with incest (again, as long as kids are not an issue) in writing. As for RL... well, I try hard not to judge people. But the truth is, most incest cases I heard about included minors and pedophilia, and I'm really against those so you can draw your own conclusions.

That being said, I am not even vaguely attracted to any of my family members. And really, spending so much time with them is a way to find out most of their flaws. I'm afraid I'm somewhat picky when it comes to men and women I might go out with, and family would be a wee bit too close to home.

That being said, fun fact. According to the Orthodox Church, I can marry my fourth degree cousin without much of a hussle. For anything closer I'd need a special dispensation. That no marrying your relatives to the ninth inlaw thing? You should see the way they count. *rolls eyes*

[mechante-fille.livejournal.com]

Hm, interesting. In the majority of the United States, it is not illegal to marry your first cousin. Some make a special exception for double cousins, though. Like if two sisters marry two brothers, and the children of each couple want to marry, they cannot since they are genetically siblings. And, apparently, that level of incest doesn't impact the bloodlines much. Einstein's parents, I believe, were cousins.

*watches too much Nova*

[alice_montrose]

Romanians = 80% Orthodox Christians. So things are still pretty old-fashioned.

The question of impacting the bloodlines occurs after several generations. Like it was with European nobility, and royalty in particular. At a certain point they had gotten so inbred that it was beginning to show (sickly children, idiots, etc).